Comments on: Surprise! It’s Bioshock http://blog.ortizgames.com/2008/05/25/surprise-its-bioshock/ High Expectations and Sharp Observations Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:37:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: aortiz http://blog.ortizgames.com/2008/05/25/surprise-its-bioshock/comment-page-1/#comment-124 aortiz Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:50:16 +0000 http://aortiz.wordpress.com/?p=226#comment-124 @Kyle: Well, the 360 hasn't been preoccupied with keeping exclusives at all since it came out, it seems. Because they're Microsoft, they've even integrated Live For Windows so they can capture the PC Market with their Console Games. Games like Folklore and Warhawk don't even seem to get any attention from the 360 crowd. They chase after big-name games like MGS4 and GTA4, the latter of which Microsoft paid absurd sums of money to release on their console--a contract which, when expired, seems to indicate nothing about the same promised content for the 360 being released on the PS3. So it could have all been for naught in the end. As for the PS3's floundering first years: http://itmayevenbe.com/2007/12/22/people-hate-the-ps3/ I've written about this already and I stand firmly by it. I've waited patiently for Sony because I've believed they would emerge with the console I want in the end, and so they have emerged--I'll be getting my in-game XMB any time this month (well, according to the Rumors) and I am as happy as can be, ready to play Metal Gear. Final Fantasy comes out at the end of the year and sometime before that LittleBigPlanet and Killzone. What's coming out for the 360 that I want? Well... nothing. Sony has had a great big bucketload of crap, yes. But I have expressed my theories as to why that is, and despite all that Sony has STILL pushed forward and is already becoming a threat to Microsoft despite its initial dysmal position. That says a great deal about the 360 to me, and the fact that they're not trying to keep their console full of exclusives that MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO BUY IT, as in People Like Me, doesn't hold up well either. I really liked Bioshock, but I never get to saw the ending. Which is why I suppose I'm not depressed by it. I just beat Assassin's Creed, and I realize how an ending can just flatten an okay game. But despite even the crappy ending and how people constantly indicate it's just like System Shock 2, it's the mood, atmosphere, story and environment of Bioshock that I enjoy so much. @Kyle: Well, the 360 hasn’t been preoccupied with keeping exclusives at all since it came out, it seems. Because they’re Microsoft, they’ve even integrated Live For Windows so they can capture the PC Market with their Console Games.
Games like Folklore and Warhawk don’t even seem to get any attention from the 360 crowd. They chase after big-name games like MGS4 and GTA4, the latter of which Microsoft paid absurd sums of money to release on their console–a contract which, when expired, seems to indicate nothing about the same promised content for the 360 being released on the PS3. So it could have all been for naught in the end.

As for the PS3′s floundering first years:
http://itmayevenbe.com/2007/12/22/people-hate-the-ps3/

I’ve written about this already and I stand firmly by it. I’ve waited patiently for Sony because I’ve believed they would emerge with the console I want in the end, and so they have emerged–I’ll be getting my in-game XMB any time this month (well, according to the Rumors) and I am as happy as can be, ready to play Metal Gear. Final Fantasy comes out at the end of the year and sometime before that LittleBigPlanet and Killzone. What’s coming out for the 360 that I want? Well… nothing.
Sony has had a great big bucketload of crap, yes. But I have expressed my theories as to why that is, and despite all that Sony has STILL pushed forward and is already becoming a threat to Microsoft despite its initial dysmal position. That says a great deal about the 360 to me, and the fact that they’re not trying to keep their console full of exclusives that MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO BUY IT, as in People Like Me, doesn’t hold up well either.

I really liked Bioshock, but I never get to saw the ending. Which is why I suppose I’m not depressed by it. I just beat Assassin’s Creed, and I realize how an ending can just flatten an okay game.
But despite even the crappy ending and how people constantly indicate it’s just like System Shock 2, it’s the mood, atmosphere, story and environment of Bioshock that I enjoy so much.

]]> By: Kyle http://blog.ortizgames.com/2008/05/25/surprise-its-bioshock/comment-page-1/#comment-123 Kyle Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:39:02 +0000 http://aortiz.wordpress.com/?p=226#comment-123 Interesting that you make it sound like the 360 is losing exclusives left right and centre - considering that happened a lot more on the PS3 a few months ago. Anyway, Bioshock - despite having great art direction and sound design - was a pretty lacklustre game. I'm in the minority in my opinion though. Interesting that you make it sound like the 360 is losing exclusives left right and centre – considering that happened a lot more on the PS3 a few months ago.
Anyway, Bioshock – despite having great art direction and sound design – was a pretty lacklustre game. I’m in the minority in my opinion though.

]]> By: aortiz http://blog.ortizgames.com/2008/05/25/surprise-its-bioshock/comment-page-1/#comment-122 aortiz Sat, 31 May 2008 00:23:07 +0000 http://aortiz.wordpress.com/?p=226#comment-122 @Jim: Good point. However, I've been looking at this from the standpoint of people like me who can't actually get a high-end computer. I don't have the money to invest in a machine that can play all the games I'd like it to play and more. When looking at it from an economic standpoint, it's far cheaper for a gamer to buy a console that's capable of much more than their computer is as opposed to buy an entirely new machine--higher end gaming PCs going for prices above $15 hundred USD. My point all this time has been that Bioshock and Mass Effect had the Xbox 360 CONSOLE exclusivity. I'm sorry if I've neglected to make that clear. I've known very well Bioshock and Gears of War and Mass Effect (as of a few days ago) and even Halo 2 are all out on the PC, which has been one of my biggest gripes about the 360: it really has no exclusivity to speak of--it ports everything it has over to the Windows platform. However, I've given it the benefit thus far of providing for gamers who can't buy the new Nvidia video card a gaming experience that's as clean and crisp and sharp in framerate and anti-aliasing as any high end PC. Bioshock may be out on PC, but heaven knows my laptop can't run it. The same goes for when SPORE comes out on PC. I'm dying to get it. But I'm terrified my computer will just not run it. So hearing it may come out as a port for the consoles is a little comforting. I don't think PS3 "needs" any ports. I'm more than excited about the exclusives coming up for it starting this summer and moving up all the way to December. It's just been disappointing to me to see two games I really want to play on a console I really haven't wanted to buy, and this is the point in which that regret becomes relief. @Jim: Good point. However, I’ve been looking at this from the standpoint of people like me who can’t actually get a high-end computer. I don’t have the money to invest in a machine that can play all the games I’d like it to play and more. When looking at it from an economic standpoint, it’s far cheaper for a gamer to buy a console that’s capable of much more than their computer is as opposed to buy an entirely new machine–higher end gaming PCs going for prices above $15 hundred USD.

My point all this time has been that Bioshock and Mass Effect had the Xbox 360 CONSOLE exclusivity. I’m sorry if I’ve neglected to make that clear. I’ve known very well Bioshock and Gears of War and Mass Effect (as of a few days ago) and even Halo 2 are all out on the PC, which has been one of my biggest gripes about the 360: it really has no exclusivity to speak of–it ports everything it has over to the Windows platform. However, I’ve given it the benefit thus far of providing for gamers who can’t buy the new Nvidia video card a gaming experience that’s as clean and crisp and sharp in framerate and anti-aliasing as any high end PC. Bioshock may be out on PC, but heaven knows my laptop can’t run it.

The same goes for when SPORE comes out on PC. I’m dying to get it. But I’m terrified my computer will just not run it. So hearing it may come out as a port for the consoles is a little comforting.

I don’t think PS3 “needs” any ports. I’m more than excited about the exclusives coming up for it starting this summer and moving up all the way to December. It’s just been disappointing to me to see two games I really want to play on a console I really haven’t wanted to buy, and this is the point in which that regret becomes relief.

]]> By: Jim http://blog.ortizgames.com/2008/05/25/surprise-its-bioshock/comment-page-1/#comment-121 Jim Fri, 30 May 2008 15:53:56 +0000 http://aortiz.wordpress.com/?p=226#comment-121 You can't possible considered Bioshock as "Xbox 360 Exclusive", as it was also announced and made available for PC right from the start. Same deal with Mass Effect. If PS3 needs good games to be ported to their console, you can just say that rather than fake it as a loss to Xbox and doing a lame fanboy victory dance. :p - Jim The game is pretty good though. You can’t possible considered Bioshock as “Xbox 360 Exclusive”, as it was also announced and made available for PC right from the start. Same deal with Mass Effect.

If PS3 needs good games to be ported to their console, you can just say that rather than fake it as a loss to Xbox and doing a lame fanboy victory dance. :p

- Jim

The game is pretty good though.

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